I posted a question in the comments of Chateau Heartiste HERE.
"That raises an interesting point. What’s the best method to get a woman who’s waiting until marriage to have sex to abandon her Christian beliefs and have sex."
The reason was because I've been seeing this chick for a couple weeks who told me the second night we hung out that she was a virgin and was waiting for marriage. That doesn't work for me so I decided I was either going to next her or figure out how to get her to have sex.
Well, I did it. And it wasn't as hard as it should have been. I used push/pull mercilessly during foreplay. I realize this is basic stuff for some guys but it took some real thought for me.
Night 1: at club, to my buddy I said, "I'm gonna go talk to the chick in red." (figured if she's in red she's DTF) We hung out and talked for a while. Very little game. I was just very social, friendly, and genuine (a rarity) and brought her ugly friends into the convo which really impressed her. We danced and made out. Number close.
TEXT GAME TO MEETUP - between Night 1 and 2
Buncha fluff and then:
ME: I'm busy thurs and sat but Fri I'd like to see you
HER: Well sir I don't even know your last name. And are you really 26?ME: *fake last name*, and I never said I was trustworthy
HER: You may have two first names and my mom told me never to trust those guys soo
HER: Lol yes I got that vibe, I'm free fridayME: Cool, you got two days to stress about what to wear
HER: more like stress about if I should hang out with a guy who won't tell me his age and specific occupation and claims to be untrustworthy. Super excited.ME: They're fine now, regretting digging their car out cuz my grandmom's a bad driver
HER: How are your grandparents (reference to previous text fluff convo)
HER: Haha aw that's unfortunateME: She's a sideswiper
HER: **TEXT BOMB** Hey I have to cancel Friday. I really don't have time for dating. I have to get ready for phD coursework, teach myself a language or two for that. I prob shouldn't have given you my number but you were really funny and charismatic and danced, maybe not well, but sensually lol. I was just looking at places I'm going to apply to soon for phd and realized I need to buckle down ya knowME: does this mean we're not getting married? I already told my family
HER: Well I wouldn't say that.... You don't seem very into this anyway. By the way you text at leastME: Are you kidding, I have three jobs and see patients all day, I wish I had time to text
HER: Why three jobs?! Tell me what they are.ME: *told her my work*
HER: That's pretty cool. Blah blahME: *fluff*
ME: **TEXT BOMB** maybe it's the city but you're the first girl I've met in a while that seemed genuine and we got along great so it makes sense that I'd want to see you again, clearly I don't have time for dating either and I really only go out once a week, so if you're worried about me monopolizing your time you're good
HER: Okay then. We can hang out Friday. What would you like to do?ME: *Logistics*
Night 2: week later we got drinks and made out in my car (the night she told me she's a virgin)
Night 3: week later we got drinks and BJ / fingered her in my car
Night 4: week later we got drinks and went back to her place, everything but sex
Night 5: couple days later met at her place, everything but sex, just the tip
Night 6: couple days later met at her place
After Night 3 I was seriously considering not seeing her again because she liked to be finger fucked so hard that it was exhausting. Plus I was wondering if it'd even be fun if she wanted it that ridiculously hard the whole time.
Night 4 we did everything but sex. I slipped it in (just the tip) for a little while and then went all the way. This was after finger fucking her hard and she didn't notice at first (how emasculating is that?). When she did she sat bolt upright with a panicked look and asked if my dick was in her (srsly how emasculating is that?). I said no, "I was just teasing her." She relaxed. That's when I realized I needed to make her complicit in the deed. After fucking around she told me that I don't have to work as much if I do more foreplay. Duly noted.
Night 5 we did everything but sex again, but I teased her mercilessly. At one point she said, "do you want to come now?" I said, "I've got all night" and I continued with the teasing. The push/pull was making her beg for me to finger bang her and only giving her a little at a time and focusing on her clit. In between I was teasing her with my dick and putting in the tip with her watching this time and letting her know exactly what I was doing. (Some may say that even the tip in a girl is sex, but I need to be balls deep.) She'd resist the tip and I'd pull out and then put it in again later. Doing Push/Pull with her clit and light fingering for a while brought her way up and that's when I finally gave her the hard fingering that she wanted. I'd stop fingering her and put some of my dick in her again and she'd moan even louder so I know she wanted it. At one point I turned her around doggy style and did this. She put her hands back there to stop me from putting my dick in her and I put them on her ass to make her pull her cheeks open. When I sensed that she was pulling away from my dick I'd switch to fingering her. When I sensed that she was peaking from fingering I'd switch to putting my dick in her. Back and forth with this until I felt it was enough. Then I fingered fucked her hard. It didn't take long. She fucking squirted and said she's never done that before. I believe her because she was convulsing in shock. I felt that at this time I had her.
Night 6 we did everything. A repeat of Night 5 except that she stopped me after the first time I put the tip of my dick in her. Very serious tone she said, "We are not going to have sex. I need you to tell me that you're not going to try to have sex with me." I stared at her in silence thinking of how to proceed. She said, "We're not going to have sex. Say it." I agreed.
She said, "You can't put it in. You can't even put it in half way."
I said, "A quarter doesn't count." ('doesn't count' is chick-speak)
She said, "Ok a quarter doesn't count. SHIT I can't believe you got me to say that!"
Again, more of the same from Night 5 except I told her to tell me she was my toy and my dirty slut. I told her to tell me how much she wanted it. Over and over again until it was like a mantra.
I can't believe how fucking easy it was now that I broke it down. Good news is that she is a really good fucking lay so she'll get to see me some more. She may be in love with me now, so there's that. I think any other dude would fall in love with her. She's got a neotenous face and killer body. Plus she's so fucking nice and genuine. She's going to be heartbroken when we breakup. Ok, me too probably.